Government Changes Fixed Day Election Date

February 7th, 2007 | by MadHacktress |

Yesterday I wrote about my support for Ontario municipal governments who wish to use the Lord’s Prayer - or any other prayer for that matter - through the course of their business. I received a couple of decidedly opposing views.

Today comes another topic in the same vein: the Ontario government has opted to change the first of its fixed-day-election-dates because of a Jewish religious conflict. The originally scheduled date, the first Thursday of October, conflicts with the Shemini Atzeret holiday.

Should the government have taken religious belief in to consideration when making this decision?

My own personal thought is that it’s not really a big deal. The chief elections officer is given the power to make such decisions when necessary in order to appeal to the needs of the electorate. My curiousity is if the same posters who strongly opposed the Lord’s Prayer will also strongly oppose the recognition of a Jewish holiday in this context.

It’s hard, in politics and other goings-on, to balance all the various needs and necessities of the people who live within ones dominion. Canada is especially multi-cultural and so it definitely leads to situations wherein a number of sometimes conflicting ideals will meet head on. Finding the common ground for a solution isn’t always as easy as it is in this situation.

I firmly believe that, within reason and with only a few exceptions, multi-cultural living and recognition is possible. I do not believe that the melting pot is a necessity for a society to run smoothly. We can include virtually everyone, and virtually everyone’s beliefs without having to suffer being mired with over-culturisation.

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Comment by Gord Mackenna Subscribed to comments via email
2007-02-08 09:30:10

Well your suspicions will be correct with me.

The one of the very few things that I like about the fascist theocratic cesspool south of us is that they hold elections on the same day all the time.

We need to adopt that and the Australian compulsory vote and the European voting by proportional representation. Therefore our Democracy will finally work, as a non-participatory Democracy doesn’t

The majority of people I deal with and I do deal with the public, are sheep and I would prefer they don’t vote, but I do agree with one of my all time hero’s Sir Winston Spencer Leonard Churchill, that democracy is the worst form of Government, except for all the others.

I used to laugh at Italy having a Government a year, every year since WWII, then I finally realised that theirs was a vastly superior type of Democracy to ours, with big huge Political parties that had Red & Blue wings. Minority coalitions actually work far better than a first past the post style of Government. Look at the election where we got that Mulroney Moron, we ended up with Free trade with the fascist theocracy even though, I think it was 62 - 63% of us disapproved of it.

I sat at the NDP convention when the waffle walked out. I note the American Progressives are splitting up, even to the point that I don’t see a strong contender coming out to challenge the mentally challenged Repuglicans. Unless Gore does run again after a bloody battle with Obama, Rodham-Clinton and Edwards as a late ‘Save the Democrats’ entry, hopefully he’ll choose Wesley Clark to be his running mate. The ‘Idiot Bastard Son’ (All apologies to Frank Zappa, may he be laughing in Valhalla) is even splitting the Repuglicans in the majority of States much to the chagrin of the next victims of Amerikan aggression, Iran & Syria I am sure. “But we’ve always been at war with EastAsia”

As to your belief in Multi-culturalism, being a big city boy and not wishing to be rude. Come to Toronto as I even consider Kingston to be a backwater, see what the true result of Multi-culturalism is….

It is institutionalised racism. It ghettoises people. I am Scottish born but you won’t hear me call myself a Scottish Canadian. I work in a transportation related field and I work with MANY visible minorities and they do NOT support your stance. They are Canadian and want their kids to be Canadian and like any smart persons they will take any money the Government gives back, vis-a-vis any type of tax boondoggles about multi-culturalism. But when push comes to shove they just want to live in peace and comfort and laugh at faux social liberals.

Keep that date intact under all circumstances, the sheep will be confused.

BTW I am starting my own religion, I need all of you to work three jobs, give all your worldly possessions to me and in return, you will get a picture of me to worship, a bowl of cold rice and last but not least….salvation. Plus mine is better than some others.

For the men you get 312 virgins in the afterlife (Why a man would want even one is beyond me, but meh…give the masses what they want); For you ladies, 312 big burly firemen in varying stages of undress; for those who may pitch for the opposite team, your choice of gender. It’s the truth, just have faith, believe me, honest………

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming ~ WOO HOO what a ride!~

“The illusion of freedom in America will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.”- Frank Zappa, 1977.

Eccentricity is not, as dull people would have us believe, a form of madness. It is often a kind of innocent pride, and the man of genius and the aristocrat are frequently regarded as eccentrics because genius and aristocrat are entirely unafraid of and uninfluenced by the opinions and vagaries of the crowd.

 
Comment by Gord Mackenna Subscribed to comments via email
2007-02-08 10:13:39

How silly of me to answer without going to my plethora of periodicals and of course it is Alternet coming to my rescue as usual.

Adam this is going to be copied and pasted to insure you see it, as I really believe you think you are doing good work, yet when I became a life long atheist at age 12. I knew that if I was the Anti-Christ I would come up through the legions of born-agains.

I am a studied tactician and it’s the best route. I am also including two other links at the end for those who wish to open their minds to see what we are really going to face. I also recommend reading Kurt Vonnegut Jr. for insight from an 80+ year old man.

That and the governments are lying to us and that we are going into an Ice Age. Yet if they tell us the extent of what is going to happen all the police states in the world couldn’t control the mass hysteria and the population migration would unlike anything ever seen on earth before. The last Ice Age came within 100 yrs, a blink of an eye in geological terms. So ‘praise the lord and pass the ammunition’

This is quite chilling….read on!!

The Rise of Christian Fascism and Its Threat to American Democracy
By Chris Hedges, Truthdig. Posted February 8, 2007.

We must attend to growing social and economic inequities in order to stop the most dangerous mass movement in American history — or face a future of fascism under the guise of Christian values.
Dr. James Luther Adams, my ethics professor at Harvard Divinity School, told his students that when we were his age — he was then close to 80 — we would all be fighting the “Christian fascists.”
The warning, given 25 years ago, came at the moment Pat Robertson and other radio and television evangelists began speaking about a new political religion that would direct its efforts toward taking control of all institutions, including mainstream denominations and the government. Its stated goal was to use the United States to create a global Christian empire. This call for fundamentalists and evangelicals to take political power was a radical and ominous mutation of traditional Christianity. It was hard, at the time, to take such fantastic rhetoric seriously, especially given the buffoonish quality of those who expounded it. But Adams warned us against the blindness caused by intellectual snobbery. The Nazis, he said, were not going to return with swastikas and brown shirts. Their ideological inheritors had found a mask for fascism in the pages of the Bible.
He was not a man to use the word fascist lightly. He had been in Germany in 1935 and 1936 and worked with the underground anti-Nazi church, known as the Confessing Church, led by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Adams was eventually detained and interrogated by the Gestapo, who suggested he might want to consider returning to the United States. It was a suggestion he followed. He left on a night train with framed portraits of Adolf Hitler placed over the contents of his suitcases to hide the rolls of home-movie film he had taken of the so-called German Christian Church, which was pro-Nazi, and the few individuals who defied the Nazis, including the theologians Karl Barth and Albert Schweitzer. The ruse worked when the border police lifted the tops of the suitcases, saw the portraits of the Führer and closed them up again. I watched hours of the grainy black-and-white films as he narrated in his apartment in Cambridge.
Adams understood that totalitarian movements are built out of deep personal and economic despair. He warned that the flight of manufacturing jobs, the impoverishment of the American working class, the physical obliteration of communities in the vast, soulless exurbs and decaying Rust Belt, were swiftly deforming our society. The current assault on the middle class, which now lives in a world in which anything that can be put on software can be outsourced, would have terrified him. The stories that many in this movement told me over the past two years as I worked on “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America” were stories of this failure — personal, communal and often economic. This despair, Adams said, would empower dangerous dreamers — those who today bombard the airwaves with an idealistic and religious utopianism that promises, through violent apocalyptic purification, to eradicate the old, sinful world that has failed many Americans.
These Christian utopians promise to replace this internal and external emptiness with a mythical world where time stops and all problems are solved. The mounting despair rippling across the United States, one I witnessed repeatedly as I traveled the country, remains unaddressed by the Democratic Party, which has abandoned the working class, like its Republican counterpart, for massive corporate funding.
The Christian right has lured tens of millions of Americans, who rightly feel abandoned and betrayed by the political system, from the reality-based world to one of magic — to fantastic visions of angels and miracles, to a childlike belief that God has a plan for them and Jesus will guide and protect them. This mythological worldview, one that has no use for science or dispassionate, honest intellectual inquiry, one that promises that the loss of jobs and health insurance does not matter, as long as you are right with Jesus, offers a lying world of consistency that addresses the emotional yearnings of desperate followers at the expense of reality. It creates a world where facts become interchangeable with opinions, where lies become true — the very essence of the totalitarian state. It includes a dark license to kill, to obliterate all those who do not conform to this vision, from Muslims in the Middle East to those at home who refuse to submit to the movement. And it conveniently empowers a rapacious oligarchy whose god is maximum profit at the expense of citizens.
We now live in a nation where the top 1 percent control more wealth than the bottom 90 percent combined, where we have legalized torture and can lock up citizens without trial. Arthur Schlesinger, in “The Cycles of American History,” wrote that “the great religious ages were notable for their indifference to human rights in the contemporary sense — not only for their acquiescence in poverty, inequality and oppression, but for their enthusiastic justification of slavery, persecution, torture and genocide.”
Adams saw in the Christian right, long before we did, disturbing similarities with the German Christian Church and the Nazi Party, similarities that he said would, in the event of prolonged social instability or a national crisis, see American fascists rise under the guise of religion to dismantle the open society. He despaired of U.S. liberals, who, he said, as in Nazi Germany, mouthed silly platitudes about dialogue and inclusiveness that made them ineffectual and impotent. Liberals, he said, did not understand the power and allure of evil or the cold reality of how the world worked. The current hand-wringing by Democrats, with many asking how they can reach out to a movement whose leaders brand them “demonic” and “satanic,” would not have surprised Adams. Like Bonhoeffer, he did not believe that those who would fight effectively in coming times of turmoil, a fight that for him was an integral part of the biblical message, would come from the church or the liberal, secular elite.
His critique of the prominent research universities, along with the media, was no less withering. These institutions, self-absorbed, compromised by their close relationship with government and corporations, given enough of the pie to be complacent, were unwilling to deal with the fundamental moral questions and inequities of the age. They had no stomach for a battle that might cost them their prestige and comfort. He told me, I suspect half in jest, that if the Nazis took over America “60 percent of the Harvard faculty would begin their lectures with the Nazi salute.” But this too was not an abstraction. He had watched academics at the University of Heidelberg, including the philosopher Martin Heidegger, raise their arms stiffly to students before class.
Two decades later, even in the face of the growing reach of the Christian right, his prediction seems apocalyptic. And yet the powerbrokers in the Christian right have moved from the fringes of society to the floor of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Forty-five senators and 186 members of the House before the last elections earned approval ratings of 80 to100 percent from the three most influential Christian right advocacy groups — the Christian Coalition, Eagle Forum, and Family Resource Council. President Bush has handed hundreds of millions of dollars in federal aid to these groups and dismantled federal programs in science, reproductive rights and AIDS research to pay homage to the pseudo-science and quackery of the Christian right.
Bush will, I suspect, turn out to be no more than a weak transition figure, our version of Otto von Bismarck — who also used “values” to energize his base at the end of the 19th century and launched “Kulturkampf,” the word from which we get culture wars, against Catholics and Jews. Bismarck’s attacks, which split Germany and made the discrediting of whole segments of the society an acceptable part of the civil discourse, paved the way for the Nazis’ more virulent racism and repression.
The radical Christian right, calling for a “Christian state” — where whole segments of American society, from gays and lesbians to liberals to immigrants to artists to intellectuals, will have no legitimacy and be reduced, at best, to second-class citizens — awaits a crisis, an economic meltdown, another catastrophic terrorist strike or a series of environmental disasters. A period of instability will permit them to push through their radical agenda, one that will be sold to a frightened American public as a return to security and law and order, as well as moral purity and prosperity. This movement — the most dangerous mass movement in American history — will not be blunted until the growing social and economic inequities that blight this nation are addressed, until tens of millions of Americans, now locked in hermetic systems of indoctrination through Christian television and radio, as well as Christian schools, are reincorporated into American society and given a future, one with hope, adequate wages, job security and generous federal and state assistance.
The unchecked rape of America, which continues with the blessing of both political parties, heralds not only the empowerment of this American oligarchy but the eventual death of the democratic state and birth of American fascism.

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html

(Many links to the history of the rise of the right, all worth reading…”If they come to ethnically cleanse me,
Will you speak out? Will you defend me? )

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/

“ICH BIN EIN AUSLANDER”
(”I Am A Foreigner”)
by Pop WILL Eat Itself

Listen to the victim, abused by the system
The basis is racist, you know that we must face this.
“It can’t happen here” -yep-
Take a look around at the cities and the towns.

See them hunting, creeping, sneaking,
Breeding fear and loathing with the lies they’re speaking.
The knife, the gun, broken bottle, petrol bomb:
There is no future when the Pasan come.

And when they come to ethnically cleanse me,
Will you speak out? Will you defend me?
A laugh through a glass eye as they rape our lives,
Trampled underfoot by the rise of the right.

Ich Bin Ein Auslander.

Welcome to a state where the politics of hate
shout loud in the crowd “Watch them beat us all down”
There is a rising tide in the rivers of blood
but if the answer isn’t violence, neither is your silence.

If they come to ethnically cleanse me,
will you speak out? Will you defend me?
Freedom of expression doesn’t make it alright
Trampled underfoot by the rise of the right.

Ich Bin Ein Auslander.

 
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